Of course, since God is capable of making physical appearances. Thanks for your focus on this and for sharing the fruits of your consideration of the passage. Thanks for your thoughts. Jack ~'()~ Who is this that would kill him? I plan to search through it much more. 5. Abel may have had plenty of kids who would want revenge against their Uncle Cain for killing their father. Adam heard God making a sound (aside from speaking) that God had made before and which enabled Adam to recognise that it was the sound of God. I just think that Adam and Eve would have needed alot of one on one guidance from God, in person, that of which they couldnt have possibly received by remote control. I have no problem with that. I think youve understood exactly what I was seeking to accomplish. He was their friend. In this environment, Adam and Eve had safety, abundant food, meaningful work and fellowship with God. Adam did hear Gods voice at another time. I think that would be fantastic. Well done! First, we are told that God made man from the dust of the ground, and he didnt become a living being until God breathed the breath of life into him (Genesis 2:7). . Adam and Eve Hide From God. " (John 1:18) . Adam and Eve were ashamed of what they had done and afraid to face God, so they hid in the trees. The animals possess none of these characteristics, at least not to the same degree as man, so these seem like strong possibilities for what it means to be made in Gods image. never seen what GOD actually looks like. However, I also notice in chapter 2 that Adam recognized God speaking (commanding) to him concerning the forbidden tree. The only possible biblical reference to walking in the Garden of Eden is found after Adam and Eve sinned. This walking refers to living a life that pleases God. The book of Genesis tells us that the Lord appeared and fellow-shipped with Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden (ch. There isnt a verse like this about Adam and/or Eve. I appreciate your fidelity to Gods Word. You asked who they were conversing with. !NOW YOU CAN TAKE THIS LIE DOWN FOR GOOD ,,,THANK YOU !!!!STEVI. They walked and talked with God. I found it interesting that with all the opinions to the idea of walking with God in the comments section, not too many have thanked you for letting us know that Gods Word does not say that Adam or Eve walked with God in the Garden. For more on the issue of Cains wife, see this article: https://answersingenesis.org/bible-characters/cain/cains-wife-who-was-she/. And whatever Adam called each living creature, that was its name.<<<<. Is it so hard to see that broke the fall in a righteous or right standing with God, the first family would run hard to God. This is why Christians generally believe that all human life is precious. One has still He gives instructions and warnings and they fear Him when they disobey. Far too often, we allow traditions, even seemingly innocent ones, to become the basis for our understanding of Scripture. (NASB) Gen. 3:8. But that is not what it says, so Im trying to help people avoid teaching false ideas about Scripture. Thanks for the comments. Some scholars, such as J.J. Niehaus, have argued that the phrase translated as the cool of the day is better understood as referring a strong wind. Your entire post is irrelevant to the discussion because you are trying to show what it means when it says that someone walked with God. Thanks for reading. #1 Eve "saw" that the tree was good for food. You have argued that a strong wind would be a better translation, but you havent explained how it was that Adam knew that this was the sound of God as soon as he heard it. If I give full and clear credit to you with a link to your illustration Adam-Eve-Shame as follows: http://midwestapologetics.org/blog/?attachment_id=1350. 8 In the cool of the evening, the man and his wife heard the Lord God walking around in the garden. Hi Greg, But its an irrelevant point. Again, nothing in Scripture tells us that they walked with God or carried on a conversation with Him. I was afraid because I was naked, so I hid.". Hi Tim. I know when I say that Adam walked with God in the Garden, I mean to say that God spent time with them, not literally walking in the garden, God doesnt walk, He is Spirit! Ive enjoyed reading your article, the comments and your responses. As you know, I couldnt find it. Adam & Eve had been very naughty and they were hiding from the Lord!! This could be literally translated "the wind of that day." Some think this might refer to a strong wind. But arguments from silence are not strong arguments to build a positive case for something. Picture this. I would think that they received one on one instruction from God. God's presence is also noted by . I would take them apart and look inside to see how they worked. Due to the craftiness of the serpent, sin found its way into the Garden and everything fell apart. Adam was ashamed to stand before God as he was now a sinner who was about to face his righteous God. Genesis 3:21 comes after Genesis 3:7, in which Adam and Eve ate from the Tree and realized they were naked. In other words, human beings were made to reflect Gods gloryto show the world what God is likethrough who we are and what we do. After creating Adam, God "put him in the garden of Eden to tend and keep it" (Genesis 2:15). Interesting post. How do I know? Im not a Greek or Hebrew expert, or even a student. I depend on what I can find on sites (currently I use biblehub.com). Gods presence is also noted by his walking in the camp and sanctuary of Israel. The first words recorded from Eve are from her encounter with the serpent. To the second point in your conclusion, I think it is quite speculative. But there is so much more to the story. God told them to be fruitful and multiply. Ed, So I will get rid of the statement being discussed here. I think your comments were probably addressing this point though (http://midwestapologetics.org/blog/?p=1747). Thanks for taking the time to read and leave a comment. With this particular issue, the reason I addressed it is because I hear it so frequently. Based on the sheer number of people who have claimed this, it must be found somewhere in the Bible, right? The imagery in the temple indicates that it was recreating Eden, indicating that God was present in Eden in a special way that he was not present in other places on the earth. So what if he didnt say the words in genesis one would think you would be wise enough to figure it out its not hard. 19 Out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the air, >>>>>and brought them to Adam to see what he would call them. Joshua 1:8 This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success. With that being said, I agree with you that it is reasonable to infer that He spent time with them, but the Bible does not imply that He did, and that was the point of this post. 30? So Adam could eat of every tree except for the . They heard the sound of the Lord God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God among the trees of the garden. The sound of movement. Keep up the good work. Of course, from this view God was perceiveably with the pre-Fallen Adam and Eve, so that they had the privilege of regularly hanging out with Him. But Adam and Eve were almost certainly not in the Garden very long prior to their Fall. Did they do this daily, weekly, etc.? While its within the realm of possibility that Adam and Eve were 60+ when expelled from the garden, I find it extremely unlikely. I guess its just hard to let go of certain ideas, but we must always allow our thinking to be challenged by what Scripture actually says rather than what we want it to say. But there is no need to make the text say something it doesnt. The natural connotation, to me, is that God often did this, perhaps daily in the cool of the day, but what was remarkable this time was that man was afraid, because he had sinned. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him. 10 For if, when we were enemies of God, we were reconciled to Him through the death of His Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through His life! Now go to verse 17 Cain made love to his wife, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Enoch. However, that story or statement being preached wont cause anyone to fall into sin. But what comes to my mind is why would you choose this debated part to address the concern. They probably werent in the garden for very long at allperhaps just a few days to a few weeks. Please read Genesis 3:8-10: "Later they HEARD the VOICE OF JEHOVAH GOD as he was walking in the garden about the breezy part of the day, and the man and his wife hid from the face of Jehovah God among the trees of the garden. The ESV accurately captures Adams response in verse 10. Adam doesnt need to know instantly that it is God moving about, but once God speaks to Him (whether out of a whirlwind or appearing in human form or any other form) then Adam recognizes who is addressing Him. I agree with your conclusion that we should not assume that God was at Adam and Eves beck and call, coming around for a stroll whenever they wanted Him there, or that God spent considerable time fellowshipping with them in physical form as friends do. Since they were both born in Genesis 4 (after the expulsion from the Garden), they didnt necessarily have to be 120+ by the year Seth was born. Hi David, Dear Tim Chaffey, my nephew and I have read and discussed these verses endlessly. I was scanning Gen 2&3 to use the text where God walked with Adam in the garden. 11 Not only that, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation. We also should not assume that God was at their beck and call so that He would come around for a stroll whenever they wanted Him there. Adam and Eve. The Bible doesnt tell us how old Cain was when he murdered his brother, but it does give us a potential clue. He knew good because he once served God; he then knew evil because he committed evil in his rebellion from the Father. I agree that youre right to the extent that believers should be mindful to validate sermons, statements or stories from pastors. When God asked them how they knew they were naked, and asked them if they had eaten from the tree they were not to. Theres no definitive proof, but the passages implication seems clear to me. Walking with god is living with god he makes it very clear how we are to walk with him. Instead, it encourages people to draw a distinction between what Scripture actually states and the inferences we make based on those statements, even if they are quite reasonable. What was their relationship? Thanks for caring about biblical accuracy. And I completely agree that where Adam failed, Christ prevailed. We cant know because the Bible doesnt speak to this at all. Thanks for your comments. We read that God planted a garden and placed Adam there to tend it ( Genesis 2:8, 15 ). It also seems to assume that they were in the garden for quite a while when they almost certainly were not there for long at all. They got to take walks with him, check out the animals, enjoy the beau Where is the specific support for this argument found anywhere in the scriptures? It says, "they heard the sound of God walking in the garden", and, " they hid themselves from the presence of the Lord. So it seems as if Abel had just recently passed away. Please do look it up, and if you find it, let me know, so I can apologize and correct this post. It doesn't come before, which furthers the notion that God would have been content with them being without clothes, at least provided they didn't eat from the Tree. And they heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden. So when the text says that Adam heard the sound of the Lord moving in the garden, it doesnt necessarily mean that Adam knew right away that it was God making the noise. God speaks, asking Adam where he is. Maybe it is implied elsewhere in the Bible? Like your parents can be in the house with you and not in the same room but you can clearly hear them in another part of the house. It says that he went to the land of Nod and then she conceived a son (Enoch). If this is how the phrase should be translated, then God was not simply walking through the Garden. We walk with the voice of God as well. It is possible that the Lord taught them how to do certain things, as you say, but it certainly wasnt necessary. But we need to be careful not to assert that the Bible directly teaches this. Therefore, We also should not assume that God was at their beck and call so that He would come around for a stroll with them whenever they wanted Him there. Before the fall, Adam and Eve were without sin and immortal . Im not sure what that accomplishes other than allowing for the possibility that they might have, which is something I have said from the start. I believe God appeared to Adam and Eve and Cain and Enoch and Noah and Abraham and Isaac and Jacob (when He wrestled with Him) and the parents of Samson, and even to Balaam and his donkey, the same way He appeared to John. Walking with God means you are in agreement with Him and His ways ( Amos 3:3 ). Genesis 3:8 KJV. ILL TAKE YOUR APOLIGE NOW ,,WHERE THEY USE TO WALK WITH GOD ,THEY CHOOSE TO HIDE !! Contemporary English Version Late in the afternoon, when the breeze began to blow, the man and woman heard the LORD God walking in the garden. God must have schooled him in his new surroundings. As I stated in the post and many times in the comments, I have no trouble believing that they walked with God; I have a problem with people claiming that the Bible says Adam and Eve walked with God, because it doesnt say this. Thats the point of this post. What can we honestly infer from the scriptures? Regardless, my point is that Adam was familiar enough to recognized it was God. Second, Eve was made from Adams rib (or more accurately side), indicating that they both had physical bodies (Genesis 2:21). Notify me of follow-up comments by email. I could not find it. In order to answer the question of why God created Adam and Eve naked we first need to look as some Scriptures which show that the Bible uses clothing is a symbol of our character. Well, in Genesis 2, Adam names the animals, and the only words quoted from him in Gen. 2 have to do with what he said when he met Eve: This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh (Genesis 2:23). (Posted on October 30, 2014, http://midwestapologetics.org/blog/?p=1349). Genesis 3:8-9 . Thanks for reading and sharing your thoughts. AMOS 3:3 CAN 2 WALK TOGETHER UNLESS THEY BE AGREED? He put the Man he had just made in it. 8 Then the man and his wife heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the breeze of the day, and they hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden. I suppose so, but seems illogical, Hi Daniel, God had told them to be fruitful and multiply (Genesis 1:28). Hi Warren, They were created pre-programmed by God. The Tree of Life was in the Garden was it not? Nothing in that passage says it, and thats the main point of this post. by Erik Jones. We know that the Israelites did eat some of their animals during the year. It says, coats of skin. There is a possibility that we should understand that Hebrew text to be speaking about something more like the whirlwind at the end of Jobthat they heard the sound of God moving about (not walking) in the Garden. I believe one of the biggest weapons used against it is when secular opponents are more aware of the accuracy of the passages like this than we Christians who misuse and misquote them. I never really gave it much thought that Adam and Eve walked with God in the garden.God can and does whatever He wants to do. Adam and Eve heard the voice of God walking in the cool of the day.Read the KJV plus many other versions point to the fact that they walked with the voice of God. They were created with perfect bodies and were husband and wife on the day they were created. God called (using a Hebrew word that also means "to summon") Adam to face . ~~~~~ There are other passages in Scripture about those who did walk with God. 5 Now no shrub had yet appeared on the earth[ a] and no plant had yet sprung up, for the Lord God had not sent rain on the earth and there was no one to work the ground, 6 but streams[ b] came up from the . 6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. If youre interested, heres the link: https://answersingenesis.org/jesus-christ/incarnation/theophanies-in-the-old-testament/ I hope this clarifies my objective in the post. Ive heard pastors, speakers, authors, and many other Christians confidently state that Adam and Eve walked with God in the Garden of Eden. In a similar way, we are told in the New Testament to walk in the Spirit (Galatians 5:16). "And out of the ground the LORD God made every tree grow that is pleasant to the sight and good for food. Again, in Gen 3:24, we see that God drove the man out of the Garden of Eden. Could the person who was walking in the Garden have been the Angel of the Lord or the Pre-Incarnate Christ? Thanks for the comment and for taking the time to read the post. It is very possible that the angelic beings are also made in the image of God. And in Genesis 3:10 Adam heard that familiar sound (be it foot steps, voice, wind or otherwise) & hid. They heard God's approach as a terrible wind that lashed the trees of the garden, and they took cover. It would literally have been paradise just to walk with Jesus in the . The NRSV's rendering makes the time more explicit, "at the time of the evening breeze" (also REB). Thank you for reaffirming to me that we can say anything about God and find some reason for or against our reasoning, and that is why we have to be very careful to know what Gods Word says! Who was his wife? No the bible didnt directly say they walked with God. They may have done that, and I wouldnt have any problem with it. Maybe their nakedness was not exposed genitalia, but realized they were naked in some other maner. And they heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden Genesis 3:8. As I mentioned in the conclusion, God could have walked with them, but the Bible does not tell us that He did. No, I mean that God must have spent time with them in order to teach them, how else would they learn to talk, to till the land, to eat, to basically live their lives in a way that was pleasing to Him! But since God formed (literally squeezed into shape) Adam and breathed into his nostrils and removed one of his ribs and closed up the wound and walked in the garden and spoke to Adam and Eve (and then Cain later on) in a way they could easily understand, the assumption is unavoidable that God was physically there in tangible form. God fashioned Eve out of Adam's rib (Genesis 2:22). God bless! But what does it really matter, what appears to have happened here (according to some of the responses) is that golden calves have been kicked over and religion has taken a bump on the shins. the Word of God walked in Eden. Because at this time there are only three people left from the list. Christ exemplified the relationship that mankind should have with our heavenly Father and creator. Lets consider this for a moment? Many people assume that this one verse is symbolic, as . He could have done it audibly from the heavens, or He could have spent time with Adam in the garden. In spite of being familiar with scripture, I never noticed that it doesnt exactly say this. They consisted of both physical and spiritual components, just like all of their descendants, although originally they were without sin. Looking at that from an opposite perspective; Is it not also true that it is not stated they werent walking with God? Who were they conversing with? Hebrews 13:8 God is the same yesterday, and to day and forever more. This just isnt found in the text and seems very unlikely in light of the details given in the post. It means closeness, intimacy, communion. It seems so trivial. Some people have inferred from this statement that they must have known what it sounded like to hear God walk in the Garden so they must have walked with Him before. Instead, He manifested as a violent wind, perhaps not too different than how He spoke to Job out of the whirlwind (Job 38:1). Canada AKA Commie Da under seditious King/Crime Minister Justin Trudeau!! Much like those of us that have the infilling of the Holy Ghost and walk in the Spirit. And how many times is this a supporting argument for a main point or the main point itself? I also see or notice (for first time) that the description occurred after the fall & is only described once. Why werent they mentioned? So, it is not a far stretch to suppose that God and Adam might have walked together in the Garden, if not regularly, else why would God have gone to the trouble to create a garden and put man into it, if not to have a direct relationship. Man, this helped challenge me to really read through the scriptures on this topic. Thanks again. I dont think its a matter of God wanting or not wanting to spend time with His creation, but more of a matter of how much time passed before they rebelled. I dont have a problem with people thinking that Adam and Eve walked with God (as I stated, they may have), but I want people to realize that the Bible doesnt say that they did. The answer is that it was the Word, who later became Jesus Christ, that walked and talked with Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. One of those commandments was as follows: "And the LORD God gave this command to Adam: 'You may freely eat from every tree in the garden, except you must not eat of the tree of the knowledge of . And I think a strong case can be made for the notion that they werent in the garden very long at all. Of course, since I work in a ministry that emphasizes Genesis 111, Im going to hear it more than most people. Its not even hard to imagine that Adam and Eve did walk with God prior to the fall. . Satan. The adverbial phrase in the cool of the day (NIV, NASB, NJB) or the breezy time of the day (NJPS, NAB) translates the Hebrew phrase wind [rah] of the day. The NRSVs rendering makes the time more explicit, at the time of the evening breeze (also REB). (Gen. 3:8) Adam is placed in the garden to "cultivate (abad)" and "keep (samar)" it (Gen 2:15). Thanks for taking the time to comment. There is no need to attribute the work to me. That would be what we today would consider a lifetime of experiencing Gods faithfulness and guidance, only to throw it away in a single day! But this goes beyond them, it goes back to Adam and Eve.Adam and Eve had the privilege of being with God, the way that God had intended. And they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the garden in the afternoon; and both Adam and his wife hid themselves from the face of the Lord God in the midst of the trees of the garden. I believe whenever we read the words The Word of the Lord came to such and such prophet, that means Jesus (who is the Word of God)literally came to that individual as Jesus appeared to John on the Island of Patmos. I believe this issue is often promoted by people with certain theological perspectives who want to show how much damage sin did to our relationship with God. While its true they could have been over 120 years old when Cain killed Abel, they also could have been any age from very young up to 120+. I would agree with much of what you wrote, and I believe Ive stated as much in the article and follow up comments. They could not walk in the garden naked anymore, and they had to defend their actions. There are many others that could be added to this list but this illustrates . But even that would not prove that He took strolls with Adam. It seems likely that many people have just remembered some of the wording in this verse and assumed that it says Adam and Eve walked with God. My goal in these types of blog posts is to encourage believers to look carefully at the text. It does not say that God drove Adam and Eve, or the man and the woman, out of the Garden of Eden. Thats right, you are right there with them from birth, not that they were made a baby first of course, as that would take other humans to raise them as we know it! 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